Showing posts with label Honda. Show all posts
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Thursday, September 8, 2011

2011 New Honda Vario Series

2011 New Honda Vario Series.PT Astra Honda Motor (AHM) launched the New Honda Vario Series with a new look that makes it look more elegant, sporty and futuristic.
Two-wheeled vehicle market this year showed an increasing growth charts. During the first seven months of this year, total sales of motorcycles totaled 4.8 million units or approximately 11.4 percent growth compared with same period last year. In the same period, sales of Honda motorcycles grew 23.1 percent, or far exceeded the growth of the national motorcycle market with sales of 2.46 million, or 51.4 percent market share.


This type of motor scooter is one of the largest contributor to the surge in sales of Honda's growth in the first seven months of this year. Throughout January to July, sales of Honda motor scooter was recorded as 1,265,366 units or jumped about 55.1 percent compared with same period last year only 815 829 units.

With these figures, the contribution of the type of Honda motor scooter to sales also increased from only 40.8 percent in January-July 2010 to 51.4 percent this year. This achievement reinforces the predicate Honda scooter as the new king in this country with 53.4 percent market share.

In the scooter segment, one of Honda motorcycle models that many consumers demand is a Honda Vario Series. During January-July 2011, recorded sales of Honda Vario Series 493 006 units, up about 23.5 percent compared with same period last year only 399 233 units.

To maintain its existence as a pioneer scooter advance with hi-tech features, AHM Vario Series equip with the color and appearance of new striping. Vario CW with a new look with color-themed young and elegant striping.

Vario Vario Techno and CBS also had a refresher on the color and striping striping by using a more advanced themes and futuristic. Special Vario Techno, AHM add one color choices are green instead of blue to respond to consumer desires.

Honda Vario Series is equipped with engine capacity 110 cc liquid-cooled as well as some safety features that are only owned by Honda as a standard automatic side (side stand switch) in which the machine can not be turned on when in the down position and the brake lock function to prevent the motor jump when ignited.

With a variety of safety features that are not owned other brands, Honda Vario, which is Honda's first scooter in Indonesia extraordinary acclaim from the public. Total sales since its introduction in 2006 until today reached 2,322,982 units.

"We believe a refresher on the Honda Vario series will strengthen Honda's penetration in the segment AT," said Director of Marketing AHM Auddie Alexander Wiranata.

Honda Vario Series with new colors and striping will be marketed starting in mid September 2011. Honda Vario CW marketed at a price of Rp14, 4 million (on the road in Jakarta) with a choice of four colors: Black Velvet, Glam Red, White Posh, and Emerald Green.

Tuesday, May 24, 2011

Modif Honda Supra x 2004 Catching Extreme

Modif Honda Supra x 2004 Catching ExtremeIt is not easy to determine the flow of much less extreme modif. Certainly need not thought ripe for fatal errors that could lead to failure of action modif. "Mending levels are not too heavy but still could produce an eye catching work and road worthiness of course," says Fery, dedengkot Majestic Skip Jetty Modification of Palembang.Evidence of a

Saturday, May 21, 2011

2011 Honda Supra X 125 PGM Fi Underbone

2011 Honda Supra X 125 TerbaruSPECIFICATIONS Honda Supra X 125 PGM Fi Underbone 2011* The length X width X height: 1889 x 702 x 1094 mm* Distance Wheel: 1242 mm* Distance low to the ground: 136 mm* Empty weight: 107 kg* Type of order: The backbone* Type front suspension: Telescopic* This type of rear suspension: swing arm with dual shock absorbers* Size of front tire: 70/90 – 17 M / C 38P* The

Honda CBR 150R Indonesia

Gambar Honda CBR 150R IndonesiaHaving kicked off with a Honda CBR 250R in February 2011, PT Astra Honda Motor (AHM) was preparing a CBR 150R. Sports bike has been produced in Thailand. Well, AHM rumored in the near future will introduce the CBR 150R. "As an early stage will be imported CBU from Thailand. Later we plan to assemble their own, "said Augustine Indraputra, GM Marketing Planning &

2011 Honda Spacy

2011 Honda Spacy Matic2011 Honda Spacy carrying 108 cc engine, 4-stroke, air cooled, with power 8.54 PS at 8000 rpm and torque of 8 Nm at 6000 rpm. Power scooter CVT transmission is larger greater than 0.26 PS Honda Scoopy though the same engine capacity. But the torque of 0.3 Nm spacy smaller. Astra Honda Motor claims 1 liter of gasoline consumed to deliver spacy surf up to 41 km. So if you fill

Monday, March 7, 2011

Honda Mega Pro Trail Supermoto Modified

Honda Mega Pro Trail Supermoto ModifiedHonda Mega Pro modifies a model mix of trail and supermoto not a difficult job for the modifier. Especially for Agung Nugroho, boss One Brutalle Modification of Banjarnegara

Here Agung, trying to highlight the body outline Mega Pro motor has the artistic value. The fuel tank was taken from the Honda Revo. Apart form fitting, it also has a base tank bolts and wing can be directly enabled. Hand lamp are also attached to the shroud in hypermotard although not originally exist.

front shock absorber used variations upside down. Though locally made, it changed and processed so dapper. Others seem to use local components in the swing arm (swing arm).

Most difficult, said Wawan, when setting Shockbreaker rear. Had tried with angles, but the compression good baseball despite a good display. Finally, more oblique angle plus 15 degrees
and tricked by uni track system.

Honda Mega Pro Trail Supermoto ModifiedGambar Modifikasi Honda Mega Pro
ala Trail Supermoto

Gambar Modifikasi Ringan Honda Scoopy

Modifikasi Honda ScoopyModified Honda Scoopy retro-looking, fun to be seen, modified only with a limited installation of component variations or bolt-on. As performed by pemodifiktor Johanes Hanafi, Johnny Lipurnomo, from Jakarta and Rian Cahyadi from Denpasar, indonesia.

Transformation standard fashion by Johnny from Custom World looks harmonious and eye catching. He was referring to the flow of "Thai look" (TL), which he says will be a trend in 2011 because it has many advantages.

Characteristic of the TL, the circumference of a wider rim with tire lean. Here Johnny rhizome clad rim tire wear HUTF-1. while for the body-because it was interesting - just play the full sticker.
Modifikasi Honda ScoopyHonda Scoopy Modified Pic

Monday, January 24, 2011

Spesifikasi Honda phantom 200CC Fire Edition

Honda phantom 200CC  Fire EditionThe Honda Phantom was very popular in Singapore due to it being one of the few cruisers available for a class 2B license (the most basic motorcycle license in Singapore). Class 2B license holders are only allowed to ride motorcycles with displacement below 200cc, and the Phantom TA 200 fits in nicely with a 197cc engine.
Honda phantom 200CC  Fire EditionSpesifikasi Honda phantom 200CC Fire Edition

  • Engine type: 4 Step, SOHC
  • Volume Engine: 196.9 CC
  • Bore x Stroke: 63.5 x 62.2 mm
  • Cooling System: Air Pendigin
  • Compression ratio: 9.0: 1
  • Transmission: 6 speed
  • Ignition system: CDI
  • Spark plug: DPR8EA-9 (NGK) or X24EPR-U9 (DENSO)
  • Dimensions (LxWxH): 775 x 2256 x 1085 mm
  • Wheel distance: 1505 mm
  • Empty weight: 140 kg
  • Frame Type: -
  • Suspension Front: Telescopic
  • Rear Suspension: Dual Rear Shock Absorbers
  • Brakes Front: Disc Brake (Dual Piston Caliper)
  • Rear Brakes: Disc Brake (Dual Piston Caliper)
  • Tires Front: 90 / 90-17 M / C 49P (tubeless)
  • Rear tire: 130 / 90-15 M / C 66P (tubeless)
  • Tank Capacity: 11.2 Liter
  • Electrical: MF 12 Volt - 4.5 Ah
  • Fuel: Gasoline Without Lead, Octane 91 upwards

Sunday, January 23, 2011

New Honda CBR 150R Review

New Honda CBR 150R Red Color
New Honda CBR 150R is equipped with a single cylinder engine, 4-stroke, DOHC capacity of 149.4 cc. Machine-tech injection (PGM-FI) capable of generating power 19.5 hp at 10,500 rpm with peak torque of 17 Nm at 8500 rpm.

These bursts of energy greater than version 0.9 hp previously. While its main competitor the Yamaha YZF R15 powered only 16.7 hp demikan also with only 15 Nm of torque. For the new 150R CBR transmission 6-speed transmission equipped like a modern sports motorcycle. 13.1-liter tank capacity that can be used for long-distance touring.

New Honda CBR 150R bodied full fairing is claimed to be invited will be able to run up to 160 kpj. His weight reached 138 kg with a wheelbase of 1310 mm and 185 mm ground clearance. While the seat height 783 mm by 1977 mm body length, width and height of 695 mm and 1130 mm. To stop its speed, has installed front and rear disc brakes dimension 276 mm and 220 mm.
New Honda CBR 150R MerahSpesifikasi New Honda CBR 150R
Engine:

  • Displacement:149.4cc
  • Engine: 4-stroke, single cylinder, 4 valve, PGM-FI, DOHC, Liquid Cooled
  • Bore: 63.5
  • Stroke: 47.2
  • Maximum Power: 19.5hp@10500rpm
  • Maximum Torque: 17NM@8500rpm
  • Gears: 6 speed manual
  • Clutch: Wet Multiple Disk
  • Lubrication: Wet sump
Chassis

  • Frame: Twin Tube Diamond (Pentagon type)
  • Length: 1977mm
  • Width: 695mm
  • Height: 1130mm
  • Ground clearance: 185mm
  • Seat Height: 783mm
  • Wheelbase: 1310mm
  • Dry/Curb Weight: 138kg
  • Wheels: Alloy
  • Tyre size: front – 100/80-17, rear – 130/70-17
  • Tyres: Tubeless
  • Suspension(front): Telescopic Forks
  • Suspension(rear): Telescopic linked Mono shock
  • Brakes(front): 276mm Disk
  • Brakes(rear): 220mm Disk
  • Fuel Capacity: 13.1 litres
  • Ignition: Electric Start

Sunday, November 28, 2010

HONDA CB 200 RETRO

HONDA CB 200 RETRO
Motor jadul modified by Fandy Liong is Honda CB 200 output 1976.

Honda CB 200 Retro
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Love the old stuff does not mean that age is not young. That was just talking about taste. As Fandy Liong, who was born December 15, 1985 which modified the motor jadulnya, Honda CB 200 Retro Racer.Motor 1976 with the concept of output in 1976 was just overhauled the casisnya saja.Sang owner,
Fandy Liong modify this old motor with the concept of retro racer.Casis until body art side of this motor show retro racer. Check it, which made the gas tank may be up to kebelakang.Proses workmanship seretro Honda CB 200 is needed for 18 bulan.Belum enough time there, Fandy also put the tail lamp made sendiri.Untuk safety, drum brakes are typically redesigned Vespa motor embedded in This old motor. Then sein light enough to use bicycle lights for adjusting konsepnya.Meski Ontel has revolutionized the chassis, Fandy Liong mesinnya.Karburator still retaining part-owned Honda CB 200 1976 Fandy Liong.

HONDA REVO OTOMATIS

Since its introduction, the first automatic duck in Indonesia, Honda Revo AT Techno start a new trend combines comfort with typical agility of a motor scooter with a duck.
Because the dense atmosphere usually found in big cities make use of automatic transmission motorcycles become a trend in itself.
HONDA REVO OTOMATIS

In addition, the agility of a motorcycle must also have an attraction. These two things combined is dedicated to Honda through AT Revo Techno.Do not want to wait a long time, detikOto opportunity to test this bike to explore the wilderness of Jakarta without a police escort as well as the usual testing done motor manufacturers.AT Revo technology that carries Automatic Continuous Variable (CV-matic) quite comfortable to drive, though somewhat disturbed with seats that are still hard as the standard Revo.The path we choose to try out AT Revo is not a special track, but a typical jam-prone path Jakarta.When the machine is turned on, the kitchen was 110 cc runway rumble. Once the gas, direct motor drive. When I first tried it, there is little sense clumsy. It's nothing, pass the custom motorcycle gear like a duck is no longer found in the Revo AT.
Footstep left the ordinary into the gears on the motor duck in general no longer exists.

Not long after leaving the AFP office in numbers Pejaten, South Jakarta, directly facing congestion.In situations like this that carried automatic transmission AT Revo proven reliable. Moreover congestion we are forced to apply a stop & go is exhausting. But with automatic transmission, it did not happen.AT Revo riding in a traffic jam feels very comfortable. Moreover, the agility of a motorcycle duck still exist in the DNA motor that has a wheelbase is 1252 mm.

No doubt, the action-skid salve amid congestion was so much better made than the motor matik like scooter. Ground clerance Revo AT 136 mm high as feels comfortable. Making the foot can tread the earth firmly.Not only that, AT Revo Honda engine cooling system to adopt dual refrigeration and cooling air to the engine room CVT with engine motor oil the same as duck proved to be effective to maintain the engine temperature.
Any engine so it is not easy to heat that ultimately makes the rider comfortable because it is not too hot at the foot of the machine is located.

HONDA TIGER TO BE MV AGUSTA LIKE

HONDA TIGER TO BE MV AGUSTA LIKE
Here it is Honda Tiger  MV AGUSTA Look who has dipermak like MV Agusta.
Coolie Junaidi dream to own a motor sport finally materialized. After his 2002 Honda Tiger dipermak like MV Agusta.Junaidi entrust her beloved motorcycle to be modified by the cold hand of Topo Goedel Atmodjo (Tauco Custom). To make this 2002 Honda tiger became like MV Agusta Topo change Tiger body with Body Full Set Qalvanis wear plate 0.8 mm . To the eye of the tiger, Topo add headlamp from Honda Vario, Stop Lamp crescent of the Honda Grand, and mono shock of MV Agusta Suzuki Satria.Tiger style was featured prominently in yellow and black strip was given sweetener.

HONDA CS 1 MODIFIED CUSTOM CBR

HONDA CS 1 MODIFIED CUSTOM CBR Donny Dwi Budianto, the man from Samarinda, motor overhaul its CS-1 to look plump. Overhaul of the motor is generating cost of Rp 70 juta.Tangki Honda Motor Tiger pinned add CS-1 is seen kekar.Untuk modify this bike, Donny willing to pay Rp70 front juta.Pelek Honda CS-1
was replaced with a rim Honda NSR 150 SP size 350 inches x ring 17.Nah, there is the most unique on this bike. Honda CS-1 is not using the mirror. Mirror function is replaced by a 2.5-inch monitor integrated with kamera.Bagian behind this bike resembles a modified motor kekar.Head light bodied Honda CS-1 was replaced with a Honda CBR Honda rear 600.Pelek CS-1 was replaced with a rim Honda Hfr 800. Rear tire Michelin Pilot motor uses a custom embedded in the motor road.Knalpot ini.Setang add custom Honda motorcycles increased garang.Speedometer CS-1 uses digital well ace.

Tuesday, November 23, 2010

New Honda Mega Pro CB1000R Photo and Specification

Honda Mega Pro CB1000R PhotoNewcomer to the ranks of motor sport family who immediately won the Honda Motorcycle of the Year 2010 version of the Automobile Journalists Forum (FORWOT), New Mega Pro, look dazzling at the Honda booth at JMCS touch thanks to modifications in its form.Taking the concept of Ultimate Street Fighter, New Mega Pro 150 was transformed into CB1000R up to look like a big cc

Thursday, November 18, 2010

Gambar Modifikasi Honda Supra 2006 Sporty

modif honda supra 2006 next gThe concept of modification is a duck but naked, is one that has not been unusual, "said Arno.Karena obsession was then part of the framework there is no cut and modified. Still in its original shape and dimensions. Even for the affairs of the tank, while maintaining the position under jok.Perubahan radicals can be seen on the arm swing. "I made a new design

Wednesday, October 27, 2010

Modifikasi Honda Vario CBS Techno

Always innovating, that is reflected from the company class AP Thai Honda, in order to indulge its customers in the land of white elephants, AP Honda always deliver products updates, latest and tirelessly to always follow the dynamic market trends. One of the products released by AP Honda is the Honda Air Blade and the Click-i (Here Vario Techno) version BO Edition. In this special edition, Honda Vario Techno combine colors Black and Orange, which looks more cool. So what if Honda Vario Techno modified such, BO Edition? Make you still looking inspiration, hope this may help ....

Modifikasi Honda Vario CBS TechnoHonda Vario CBS Techno modified

Modifikasi Honda Vario CBS Techno
Modifikasi Honda Vario CBS Techno
Modifikasi Honda Vario CBS Techno
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Spesifikasi New Honda CBR 250R

New Honda CBR 250R AP Thai Honda motorcycle newest product release, the new Honda CBR250R. Motor is equipped with engines 249 cc, 4 stroke single cylinder (using a Unicam engine Engine) with 10,7:1 compression ratio and bore x strokenya 76 × 55 mm and teeth 6 speed transmission.

This motor is equipped with advanced features, such as the fuel is injected, ABS brakes ditanamkannya (Anti-Lock Brake System) and CBS (Combined Brake System). This motor has a dimension of 3.035 × 0.720 × 1.125 meters and weighing 161-165 kg, fuel tank capacity of 13 liters. This motor comes with a choice of three colors, ie, Candy Ruby Red, Silver Sword Metalillic and Asteroid Black Metallic.
New Honda CBR 250R Here are the technical specifications data New Honda CBR 250R
  • Model Type: MC41
  • LxWxH: 2035 x 0720 x 1125 m
  • Wheelbase: 1370 mm
  • Lowest distance to the ground: 0145 mm
  • Seat Height: 0780 m
  • Weight: 161 kg (standard), 165 kg (ABS)
  • Turning radius: 2.5 m
  • Type of engine: CS250RE, Single cylinder 4 stroke, DOHC
  • The capacity of the engine: 249 cc
  • Bore x stroke: 76 x 55 mm
  • Compression ratio: 1:10,7
  • Fogging fuel: Injection PGMFi
  • Fuel tank capacity: 13 liters
  • Type clutch: Wet with coil springs
  • Number of gear transmission: 6 speed [1: 3 333 | 2: 2 118 | 3: 1571 | 4: 1301 | 5: 1115 | 6: 0963]
  • Front Tire Size: 110/70-17M/C
  • Front Tire Size: 140/70-17M/C
  • Braking System: hydraulic disc
  • Front suspension: Telescopic
  • Rear suspension: Swing arm (Pro link)

Wednesday, October 13, 2010

Spesifikasi New Honda Beat 2010

Gambar New Honda Beat CW 2010
Starting in 2010, AHM released New Honda Beat with a new look more modern and trendy form of changes to the display on the front fender is higher than the previous model.

This new look is not only displayed on the variant type of racing rim Honda Beat (casting wheel), but also on a new variant that uses Honda BEAT rim radius (spoke wheel).

Honda Beat is equipped with excellent features a lever lock brakes (parking brake lock) that serves as a hand brake as well as standard features Automatic Side (side stand switch) that makes the machine can not be switched on when the standard addition in a position down.
Gambar New Honda Beat spoke wheel 2010
Here are the technical specifications data Honda BeAT 2010
  • Length X width X height: 1859 x 676 x 1053 mm
  • Wheelbase: 1240 mm
  • Lowest distance to the ground: 156 mm
  • Empty weight: 89.3 kg
  • Type order: Spine
  • Type front suspension: Telescopic
  • This type of rear suspension: swing arm with single sokbreker
  • Front tire size: 80/90 - 14 M / C 40P
  • Rear tire size: 90/90 - 14 M / C 46P
  • Brake front: hydraulic disc type with double piston
  • Brakes rear: Tromol
  • Fuel tank capacity: 3.5 liters
  • Engine type: 4 Step, SOHC
  • Diameter x measures: 50.0 mm x 55.0 mm
  • Volume step: 108 cc
  • Comparison of compression: 9.2: 1
  • Maximum Power: 8.22 PS / 8000 rpm
  • Maximum Torque: 0.85 kgf.m / 5500 rpm
  • Engine lubricating oil capacity: 0.7 liter in the periodic replacement
  • Dental transmsi: Automatic, V-Matic
  • Starter: Electric starter and kick starter
  • Aki: MF battery, 12 V - 3.5 Ah
  • Spark plugs: ND U 24 EPR9, EA-9 NGK CPR8
  • Ignition System: DC - CDI, battery
  • Cooling system: cooling fan
  • Carburetor: VK22 x 1
  • Headlights: 12 V 32 W x 1
  • Lights twilight: 12 V 3.4 W x 1

Honda New Supra X 125R PGM - FI (Fuel Injection) 2010

Gambar New Supra X 125R PGM - FI 2010
New Honda Supra X 125R- 2010 with PGM-FI technology, then this bike will have a performance that high environmental friendly, fuel efficient but still does not reduce motor performance, because the comparison between air and fuel supply and ignition in control through electronic sensors .

In essence Honda Supra X 125R PGM-FI so much better than other motors, his biker will get the sensation of riding a fun, safe, comfortable, environmentally friendly and fuel efficient.

Approximately there are 3 systems that are very prominent and influential when PGM-FI technology is applied, namely:
  1. Fuel System: That fuel pump will be on duty drain gasoline from tank to injectors perfectly.
  2. Air Induction System: The amount of air sucked into the cylinder past the sensor can be measured kevakumannya as a benchmark amount of gasoline that will be injected.
  3. PGM-FI system provides advantages, namely reduced exhaust emissions, more efficient in fuel consumption, providing more responsive traction motors, machine easily turned on in any conditions (cold weather mountain though), the idle is not affected at the height of an area (mountain), and provides ease of maintenance periodically
Here are the technical specifications data Honda Supra X 125R PGM-FI.
  • Length X width X height: 1.889 x 702 x 1.094 mm
  • Wheelbase: 1242 mm
  • Lowest distance to the ground: 136 mm
  • Empty weight: 107 kg
  • Type of order: The backbone
  • Type front suspension: Telescopic
  • This type of rear suspension: swing arm and dual shock absorbers
  • Front tire size: 70/90 - 17 M / C 38P
  • Rear tire size: 80/90 - 17 M / C 44P
  • Brakes front: double-piston disc
  • Brakes rear: single piston disc
  • Fuel tank capacity: 3.7 liters
  • Engine type: 4 stroke, SOHC, air cooling
  • Diameter x measures: 52.4 x 57.9 mm
  • Volume measures: 124.8 cc
  • Comparison of compression: 9.0: 1
  • Maximum power: 9.18 PS/7.500 rpm
  • Maximum Torque: 0.99 kgf.m / 5000 rpm
  • Engine lubricating oil capacity: 0.7 liter in the periodic replacement
  • Auto Clutch: Automatic centrifugal
  • Dental transmsi: fixed mesh speed
  • Pattern transfer gear: N-1-2-3-4-N (rotary)
  • Starter: Pedal and electric
  • Battery: 12 V - 3.5 Ah
  • Spark plugs: ND U20EPR9 / NGK CPR6EA-9
  • Ignition System: Full transistorized

Spesifikasi|Gambar Honda Vario CBS Techno 2010

Honda Honda CBS Techno Black
Honda Vario CBS Techno is one skutik Honda has a complete in-class safety features, addition Combi Brake System, skutik also features a side stand switch, brake lock (lever lock brakes), and auto shutter key.

Honda Vario CBS Techno is available in five color: odyssey violet, acura silver, integra white, element black and clarity red.

Honda Vario CBS Techno Specifications:
  • Engine: SOHC, radiator
  • Diameter x steps: 50x55mm
  • Volume measures: 108cc
  • Engine type: 4 stroke, SOHC engine with liquid cooling
  • Step X Diameter: 50 x 55 mm
  • Volume of cylinder: 108 cc
  • Compression: 10.7: 1
  • Maximum Power: 8.99 PS / 8000 rpm
  • Maximum torque: 0.86 kgf.m / 6500 rpm
  • Clutch: Automatic, centrifugal, dry type
  • Starter: Pedal and electric
  • Spark plugs: ND U22FER9, NGK CR7EH-9
  • Tank capacity: 3.6 liter (fuel)
  • Lubricant Oil Capacity: 0.7 liter in the periodic replacement
  • Transmission: Automatic, V-Matic
  • Electrical: 12 V - 3 Ah (type MF)
  • Ignition: DC - CDI, Battery
  • Length X Width X Height: 1.904 x 680 x 1.090 mm
  • Wheels axis: 1.273 mm
  • Distance Lowest To Land: 133 mm
  • Empty weight: 101 kg
  • Type order: Spine
  • Type front suspension: Telescopic
  • Type of rear suspension: swing arm with single shockbreaker
  • Front tire size: 80/90 - 14 M / C 40P
  • Rear tire size: 90/90 - 14 M / C 46P
  • Brake front: hydraulic disc with single piston
  • Rear brake: drum

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